Мысли о балансе. Найден мод-тестировщик!

Я вот думаю - тут у нас много народа, есть и программисты, и математики - как насчет всем скопом подумать о балансе, о том, чтобы подбирать его не на глаз (хотя это конечно останется для дальнейшей "полировки"), а вывести некоторую общую формулу?

В принципе, дано следующее:

цена
время строительства
броня
атака
точность
расстояние атаки основного оружия

5 классов кораблей:
файтеры
корветы
фригаты
кэпиталы:
малые кэпиталы (дестроеры, HP~90000)
крупные кэпиталы (HP>200000)
супер кэпиталы (HP>1000000)

есть доп.параметры, как то:

возможность доп. апгрейдов добавляющих оружие
возможность строительства подсистем
наличие щита
одноразовое передвижение


Жду ваших соображений.

Жжесть этож какая формула должна быть, может попроще, как-то типа урон жизни скорость и др. параметры кораблей выводить в отдельную формулу, именно как геймплейную, а первую как экономическую??

Я думаю тут вполне можно справиться и без разделения.

Правда, что баланс комплекса изначально был задуман, что вайгры имеют преимущество по-началу, а хиигары становятся сильнее вайгров в конце технологического дерева?

Ну судя по всему так и есть. Вайгры сразу могут строить сильнейших юнитов в линейке, но они слабее сильнейших Хиигарских, которые появляются позднее.

Впереди, я надеюсь, релиз восьмой версии, и я дeмаю что править баланс придётся в любом случае. Так что хорошо бы подумать о.

regul, а ты в своем сабмоде не думал уйти от такого распределения сил? И, например, Хиигару на ранней стадии усилить, а на старшей пофиксить.

Зачем? Тогда надо или логику выключить, или древо исследований полностью менять. Но в принципе в чем-то мы этим и занимались.

В общем, возвращаюсь к теме. Баланс восьмого так и так править придётся, так что надо подумать снова. Есть идеи?

Пока все очень даже прилично, разве что опять же порезать скорость шатла, уровень клока вайгров привязать к 80 хонора, возможно подрезать офицеров у матерей, у свиперов и кариера Вайгров, крепость Вайгров опустить на пару званий ниже и посмотреть другие юниты, которые жизнено необходимы раньше - такие как минные карветы. У хайгаринов вернуть на скавенджер способность захватывають или хотя бы захватывающий фрегат поставить на 30 хонора... пока все

Ну это конкретные соображения. А я хочу - ероплан! Чтобы не на авось подбирать баланс, а как выдумать формулу, так и все цены/оружие/требования под неё подбить. Ну потом допиливать тоже придётся, но всё же.

Бог в помощь!))

В процессе эпическое тестирование восьмого комплекса, сталкиваем эквивалентные по стоимости группы юнитов, результаты в этом файле. Пока протестировано меньше половины, хотя чистого времени ушло часов 10, если кто-то хочет присодиниться - веллкам. Или можете выкладывать тут результаты собственных тестов.

Добавлено через 31 час 10 минут
Люди, хотите хороший баланс - вностите свою лепту.

Такое дело, вопрос не совсем о балансе, точнее совсем не о нём. Дело в том, что в комплексе баталии дляться намного доьше чем в ориг ХВ2. И у многих, в частности у меня, просто тупо не хватает времени выседеть всю баталию. Нельзя ли как-то реализовать возможность сохранения сетевой игры, с возможностью её продолжения потом?

Высидеть час - проблема?
Сохранения в сетевой невозможны, насколько я знаю.

К сожалению да - очень часто это становиться проблемой (и дело тут в неусидчивости, а в обилии других дел). Вообще я раньше тоже думал, что в сетевой невозможны сохранения, НО(!) я нашёл такую возможность в сетевой игре Age of Empires 2 (там по-видимому разрабы специально предусмотрели такую возможность, так как там бои могут затянуться даже намного дольше часа). Я конечно понимаю, что для реализации этого в ХВ придётся скорее всего прелапатить всю игру, и то врядли это удасться, но всё же выношу идею на рассмотрение.

Это уже упирается в движок (как и реплеи), и тут мы безсильны.

Гад блэсс моддера Mikali - мне сегодня прислали его playbalancing mod, ктоторый позволяет тестить баланс а автоматическом режиме. Сейчас надо потратить время на настройку и потом - тесть-нехочу. Ура, товарищи! Баланс будет!

Итак. Сейчас будет куча логов, из которых надо сделать какие-то выводы. Логи уж я натворил, потратил своё время, а вы помогите всё просмотреть и найти косячки и несответствия, чтобы отбалансить наконец наше сокровище.

Просто копируйте строку в комментарий, где диагностировали дисбаланс, и предлагайте что нужно сделать.

Легенда лога:
P1_ShipNumber,P1_ShipsLeft,P1_AvgHealth,P1_ShipType,P1_ResearchList,P2_ShipNumber,P2_ShipsLeft,P2_Av gHealth,P2_ShipType,P2_ResearchList,CombatTime

Т.е. для анализа внимания заслуживают только названия юнитов и выделенные цветом данные:

1,12,38,Hgn_Interceptor,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,133

2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,1,54,74,Vgr_Interceptor,,99

Красным я выделил количество юнитов победителя.
Зеленым - сколько % хп у юнитов победителя осталось в конце битвы
Фиолетовым - время битвы.

Обратите внимание, что для мелочи указывается не количество эскадронов, а именно корабликов, т.е. 9 скаутов - это три эскадрона.

Количество юнитов в каждой схватке - на 5000 RU

[B][U]лог-1[/U][/B]

Player1Race = 1; Player2Race = 2; Player1Start = 1; Player1End = 32; Player2Start = 1; Player2End = 24; SkipDuplicates = 1; MakeInvulnerable = 0; EnableSpecialAbility = 1; TimeOutValue = 444; DistanceBtwPoints = 1000; NumberOfPoints = 40; NumberOfUnits = 10
1,12,38,Hgn_Interceptor,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,133
1,53,80,Hgn_Interceptor,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,67
1,54,82,Hgn_Interceptor,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,52
1,16,46,Hgn_Interceptor,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,69
1,48,64,Hgn_Interceptor,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,78
1,39,44,Hgn_Interceptor,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,61
1,65,98,Hgn_Interceptor,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,49
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,8,7,41,vgr_standvette,,60
1,65,98,Hgn_Interceptor,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,40
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,10,17,66,vgr_striker,,22
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,11,5,79,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,55
1,58,84,Hgn_Interceptor,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,129
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,13,6,64,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,158
1,61,89,Hgn_Interceptor,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,131
1,59,89,Hgn_Interceptor,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,67
1,49,71,Hgn_Interceptor,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,104
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,17,3,56,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,59
1,45,63,Hgn_Interceptor,,18,1,84,Vgr_Destroyer,,TimedOut
1,6,20,Hgn_Interceptor,,19,1,82,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,TimedOut
1,57,75,Hgn_Interceptor,,20,1,77,vgr_alkhalid,,TimedOut
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,295
1,41,81,Hgn_Interceptor,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
1,0,0,Hgn_Interceptor,,23,9,72,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,121
1,62,88,Hgn_Interceptor,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,108
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,1,54,74,Vgr_Interceptor,,99
2,31,62,Hgn_AttackBomber,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,176
2,17,42,Hgn_AttackBomber,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,257
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,4,29,64,vgr_defender,,49
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,5,31,79,vgr_heavyfighter,,238
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,6,22,51,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,91
2,40,88,Hgn_AttackBomber,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,160
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,8,21,70,vgr_standvette,,30
2,38,84,Hgn_AttackBomber,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,151
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,10,18,90,vgr_striker,,21
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,11,5,57,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,59
2,36,73,Hgn_AttackBomber,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,74
2,27,48,Hgn_AttackBomber,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,89
2,39,85,Hgn_AttackBomber,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,66
2,40,84,Hgn_AttackBomber,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,35
2,36,72,Hgn_AttackBomber,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,61
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,17,2,17,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,69
2,32,65,Hgn_AttackBomber,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,186
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,19,1,63,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,419
2,16,36,Hgn_AttackBomber,,20,1,56,vgr_alkhalid,,TimedOut
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,220
2,15,49,Hgn_AttackBomber,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
2,0,0,Hgn_AttackBomber,,23,10,79,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,125
2,35,76,Hgn_AttackBomber,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,158
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,1,69,91,Vgr_Interceptor,,109
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,2,52,85,Vgr_Bomber,,261
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,3,45,76,Vgr_LanceFighter,,246
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,4,38,72,vgr_defender,,61
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,5,35,98,vgr_heavyfighter,,430
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,6,32,68,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,104
3,37,66,Hgn_LBomber,,7,32,91,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,TimedOut
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,8,24,92,vgr_standvette,,35
3,28,56,Hgn_LBomber,,9,18,88,vgr_multilancecorvette,,TimedOut
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,10,18,100,vgr_striker,,23
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,11,4,51,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,64
3,49,96,Hgn_LBomber,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,58
3,44,77,Hgn_LBomber,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,61
3,50,100,Hgn_LBomber,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,57
3,50,100,Hgn_LBomber,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,35
3,47,94,Hgn_LBomber,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,50
3,30,51,Hgn_LBomber,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,35
3,40,77,Hgn_LBomber,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,183
3,2,11,Hgn_LBomber,,19,1,58,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,TimedOut
3,47,84,Hgn_LBomber,,20,1,34,vgr_alkhalid,,TimedOut
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,330
3,13,42,Hgn_LBomber,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
3,0,0,Hgn_LBomber,,23,13,92,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,140
3,47,90,Hgn_LBomber,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,330
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,1,60,69,Vgr_Interceptor,,99
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,2,37,49,Vgr_Bomber,,288
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,3,33,49,Vgr_LanceFighter,,201
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,4,12,31,vgr_defender,,82
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,5,35,89,vgr_heavyfighter,,226
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,6,11,39,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,100
4,35,88,hgn_railgunfighter,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,88
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,8,15,46,vgr_standvette,,30
4,34,92,hgn_railgunfighter,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,49
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,10,13,83,vgr_striker,,24
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,11,5,78,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,57
4,10,34,hgn_railgunfighter,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,176
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,13,6,71,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,178
4,20,46,hgn_railgunfighter,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,204
4,32,87,hgn_railgunfighter,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,56
4,21,55,hgn_railgunfighter,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,78
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,17,3,64,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,71
4,17,44,hgn_railgunfighter,,18,2,62,Vgr_Destroyer,,TimedOut
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,19,1,87,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,331
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,20,1,91,vgr_alkhalid,,246
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,275
4,0,0,hgn_railgunfighter,,22,1,91,Vgr_commandfortress,,106
4,16,41,hgn_railgunfighter,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,127
4,32,86,hgn_railgunfighter,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,64
5,22,64,hgn_hft,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,60
5,28,79,hgn_hft,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,70
5,28,87,hgn_hft,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,47
5,26,76,hgn_hft,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,27
5,30,84,hgn_hft,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,51
5,30,69,hgn_hft,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,38
5,30,94,hgn_hft,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,42
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,8,9,61,vgr_standvette,,34
5,28,93,hgn_hft,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,28
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,10,10,64,vgr_striker,,27
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,11,5,61,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,60
5,20,57,hgn_hft,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,107
5,13,24,hgn_hft,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,138
5,18,56,hgn_hft,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,102
5,25,81,hgn_hft,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,51
5,17,54,hgn_hft,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,85
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,17,1,9,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,106
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,18,2,96,Vgr_Destroyer,,65
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,19,1,64,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,424
5,18,47,hgn_hft,,20,1,70,vgr_alkhalid,,TimedOut
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,317
5,0,0,hgn_hft,,22,1,98,Vgr_commandfortress,,197
5,21,58,hgn_hft,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,78
5,26,83,hgn_hft,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,58
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,1,65,88,Vgr_Interceptor,,79
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,2,53,92,Vgr_Bomber,,164
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,3,46,86,Vgr_LanceFighter,,106
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,4,40,81,vgr_defender,,35
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,5,35,96,vgr_heavyfighter,,377
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,6,32,75,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,94
6,18,42,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,7,32,87,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,TimedOut
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,8,24,93,vgr_standvette,,16
6,12,60,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,9,18,90,vgr_multilancecorvette,,TimedOut
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,10,18,100,vgr_striker,,17
6,18,62,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,24
6,25,96,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,33
6,24,76,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,32
6,25,96,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,32
6,25,98,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,24
6,24,94,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,23
6,10,36,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,26
6,20,76,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,72
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,19,1,42,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,234
6,12,51,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,20,0,0,vgr_alkhalid,,276
6,0,0,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,107
6,2,30,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
6,8,27,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,96
6,25,94,hgn_attackbomberheavy,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,57
7,22,81,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,65
7,22,77,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,39
7,12,69,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,42
7,21,75,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,27
7,24,81,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,26
7,14,47,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,69
7,24,100,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,57
7,8,46,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,63
7,24,90,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,47
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,10,12,50,vgr_striker,,53
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,11,4,59,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,83
7,24,92,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,110
7,12,22,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,208
7,24,96,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,100
7,24,98,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,65
7,23,92,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,100
7,8,38,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,82
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,18,2,82,Vgr_Destroyer,,369
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,19,1,95,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,69
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,20,1,84,vgr_alkhalid,,410
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,64
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,22,1,88,Vgr_commandfortress,,64
7,0,0,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,23,9,78,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,107
7,24,96,Hgn_AssaultCorvette,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,109
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,1,21,26,Vgr_Interceptor,,214
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,2,27,46,Vgr_Bomber,,131
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,3,40,74,Vgr_LanceFighter,,56
8,3,27,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,205
8,7,50,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,150
8,18,72,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,32
8,21,100,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,40
8,5,44,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,42
8,21,93,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,35
8,10,32,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,47
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,11,4,50,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,51
8,21,94,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,64
8,15,48,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,112
8,21,96,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,60
8,21,100,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,38
8,21,99,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,54
8,17,62,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,30
8,16,69,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,334
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,19,1,97,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,69
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,20,1,91,vgr_alkhalid,,285
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,89
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,22,1,86,Vgr_commandfortress,,28
8,0,0,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,23,7,99,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,93
8,21,99,Hgn_PulsarCorvette,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,90
9,15,72,hgn_multiguncorvette,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,103
9,18,74,hgn_multiguncorvette,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,80
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,3,27,40,Vgr_LanceFighter,,49
9,16,67,hgn_multiguncorvette,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,51
9,12,64,hgn_multiguncorvette,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,109
9,14,57,hgn_multiguncorvette,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,152
9,18,100,hgn_multiguncorvette,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,83
9,8,40,hgn_multiguncorvette,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,68
9,18,92,hgn_multiguncorvette,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,49
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,10,11,61,vgr_striker,,59
9,8,21,hgn_multiguncorvette,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,86
9,18,93,hgn_multiguncorvette,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,70
9,16,58,hgn_multiguncorvette,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,122
9,17,89,hgn_multiguncorvette,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,71
9,18,98,hgn_multiguncorvette,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,48
9,17,91,hgn_multiguncorvette,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,69
9,16,71,hgn_multiguncorvette,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,40
9,14,74,hgn_multiguncorvette,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,188
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,19,1,89,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,123
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,20,1,85,vgr_alkhalid,,278
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,110
9,0,0,hgn_multiguncorvette,,22,1,86,Vgr_commandfortress,,34
9,6,38,hgn_multiguncorvette,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,126
9,18,95,hgn_multiguncorvette,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,83
10,15,82,hgn_cth,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,68
10,15,75,hgn_cth,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,83
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,3,29,58,Vgr_LanceFighter,,38
10,15,85,hgn_cth,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,25
10,14,70,hgn_cth,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,58
10,12,64,hgn_cth,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,60
10,15,99,hgn_cth,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,47
10,8,50,hgn_cth,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,35
10,15,95,hgn_cth,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,32
10,5,36,hgn_cth,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,68
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,11,4,57,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,70
10,15,90,hgn_cth,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,94
10,12,55,hgn_cth,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,157
10,15,96,hgn_cth,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,117
10,15,96,hgn_cth,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,52
10,15,98,hgn_cth,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,76
10,13,56,hgn_cth,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,51
10,9,58,hgn_cth,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,239
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,19,1,90,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,73
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,20,1,83,vgr_alkhalid,,427
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,97
10,0,0,hgn_cth,,22,1,86,Vgr_commandfortress,,24
10,6,42,hgn_cth,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,122
10,15,97,hgn_cth,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,75
11,5,33,hgn_cthion,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,279
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,2,27,34,Vgr_Bomber,,176
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,3,38,63,Vgr_LanceFighter,,52
11,1,19,hgn_cthion,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,144
11,4,37,hgn_cthion,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,193
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,6,19,20,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,127
11,12,98,hgn_cthion,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,203
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,8,24,84,vgr_standvette,,34
11,12,73,hgn_cthion,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,161
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,10,18,90,vgr_striker,,46
11,10,65,hgn_cthion,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,35
11,12,97,hgn_cthion,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,40
11,12,75,hgn_cthion,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,49
11,12,99,hgn_cthion,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,38
11,12,100,hgn_cthion,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,25
11,12,99,hgn_cthion,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,32
11,11,71,hgn_cthion,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,22
11,12,90,hgn_cthion,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,75
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,19,1,74,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,79
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,20,1,53,vgr_alkhalid,,285
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,79
11,0,0,hgn_cthion,,22,1,85,Vgr_commandfortress,,18
11,7,55,hgn_cthion,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,57
11,12,98,hgn_cthion,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,47
12,6,88,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,56
12,6,47,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,86
12,4,53,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,62
12,6,78,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,47
12,3,48,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,296
12,6,88,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,44
12,4,15,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,54
12,6,58,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,27
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,9,16,47,vgr_multilancecorvette,,30
12,6,39,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,94
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,11,4,59,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,70
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,12,4,62,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,106
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,13,2,33,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,193
12,6,100,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,138
12,6,75,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,66
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,16,4,53,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,78
12,4,73,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,80
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,18,2,90,Vgr_Destroyer,,66
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,19,1,92,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,92
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,20,1,97,vgr_alkhalid,,56
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,296
12,1,100,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,23,11,106,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,125
12,0,0,Hgn_AssaultFrigate,,24,13,89,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,48
13,6,52,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,260
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,2,43,51,Vgr_Bomber,,127
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,3,39,56,Vgr_LanceFighter,,69
13,6,53,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,112
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,5,28,70,vgr_heavyfighter,,245
13,6,76,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,75
13,2,23,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,58
13,6,59,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,29
13,4,62,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,26
13,6,81,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,34
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,11,5,67,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,70
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,12,6,79,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,59
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,13,8,71,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,92
13,6,100,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,201
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,15,5,62,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,67
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,16,5,65,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,95
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,17,3,28,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,118
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,18,2,94,Vgr_Destroyer,,59
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,19,1,93,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,82
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,20,1,99,vgr_alkhalid,,68
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,269
13,1,100,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,23,6,83,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,229
13,0,0,Hgn_TorpedoFrigate,,24,13,85,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,38
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,1,42,43,Vgr_Interceptor,,217
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,2,53,75,Vgr_Bomber,,91
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,3,46,79,Vgr_LanceFighter,,64
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,4,14,14,vgr_defender,,173
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,5,34,96,vgr_heavyfighter,,192
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,6,32,34,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,155
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,7,32,91,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,26
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,8,24,79,vgr_standvette,,41
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,9,18,97,vgr_multilancecorvette,,24
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,10,18,99,vgr_striker,,80
14,5,46,hgn_lrms,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,41
14,3,41,hgn_lrms,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,47
14,5,85,hgn_lrms,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,63
14,5,100,hgn_lrms,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,67
14,4,65,hgn_lrms,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,30
14,5,43,hgn_lrms,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,46
14,5,78,hgn_lrms,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,26
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,18,2,69,Vgr_Destroyer,,63
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,19,1,82,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,53
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,20,1,91,vgr_alkhalid,,63
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,305
14,1,100,hgn_lrms,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
14,3,76,hgn_lrms,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,66
14,0,0,hgn_lrms,,24,4,71,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,41
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,1,31,29,Vgr_Interceptor,,319
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,2,52,69,Vgr_Bomber,,124
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,3,49,78,Vgr_LanceFighter,,60
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,4,9,13,vgr_defender,,262
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,5,35,98,vgr_heavyfighter,,216
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,6,27,28,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,177
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,7,32,89,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,40
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,8,24,92,vgr_standvette,,53
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,9,18,97,vgr_multilancecorvette,,30
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,10,18,98,vgr_striker,,103
15,5,35,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,66
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,12,3,61,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,76
15,5,78,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,101
15,5,100,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,80
15,2,65,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,71
15,5,47,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,71
15,5,73,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,34
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,18,2,73,Vgr_Destroyer,,65
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,19,1,86,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,71
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,20,1,98,vgr_alkhalid,,33
15,1,100,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,21,1,100,Vgr_dreadnaught,,TimedOut
15,1,100,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
15,4,74,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,73
15,0,0,Hgn_IonCannonFrigate,,24,6,78,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,41
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,98
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,91
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,72
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,40
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,93
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,36
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,34
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,31
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,33
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,38
16,5,99,Hgn_tulwar,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,38
16,5,94,Hgn_tulwar,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,40
16,4,100,Hgn_tulwar,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,59
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,53
16,5,96,Hgn_tulwar,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,45
16,5,99,Hgn_tulwar,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,37
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,29
16,4,96,Hgn_tulwar,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,55
16,0,0,Hgn_tulwar,,19,1,45,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,107
16,0,0,Hgn_tulwar,,20,1,82,vgr_alkhalid,,62
16,3,75,Hgn_tulwar,,21,0,0,Vgr_dreadnaught,,435
16,1,100,Hgn_tulwar,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
16,5,100,Hgn_tulwar,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,58
16,5,87,Hgn_tulwar,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,52
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,395
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,174
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,130
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,97
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,123
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,87
17,3,90,Hgn_Destroyer,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,111
17,3,96,Hgn_Destroyer,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,65
17,3,99,Hgn_Destroyer,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,34
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,56
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,18
17,3,95,Hgn_Destroyer,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,19
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,27
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,24
17,3,99,Hgn_Destroyer,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,17
17,3,99,Hgn_Destroyer,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,22
17,3,100,Hgn_Destroyer,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,16
17,3,61,Hgn_Destroyer,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,43
17,0,0,Hgn_Destroyer,,19,1,42,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,70
17,0,0,Hgn_Destroyer,,20,1,91,vgr_alkhalid,,30
17,0,0,Hgn_Destroyer,,21,1,64,Vgr_dreadnaught,,90
17,0,0,Hgn_Destroyer,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,428
17,3,78,Hgn_Destroyer,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,25
17,3,86,Hgn_Destroyer,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,23
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,1,0,0,Vgr_Interceptor,,33
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,2,0,0,Vgr_Bomber,,21
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,3,0,0,Vgr_LanceFighter,,25
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,4,0,0,vgr_defender,,17
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,5,0,0,vgr_heavyfighter,,26
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,6,0,0,Vgr_MissileCorvette,,22
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,7,0,0,Vgr_LaserCorvette,,30
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,8,0,0,vgr_standvette,,15
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,9,0,0,vgr_multilancecorvette,,16
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,10,0,0,vgr_striker,,17
18,3,99,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,11,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,37
18,3,96,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,12,0,0,Vgr_HeavyMissileFrigate,,32
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,13,0,0,Vgr_InfiltratorFrigate,,40
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,14,0,0,vgr_supportfrigate,,37
18,3,98,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,15,0,0,vgr_longheavymissilefrigate,,21
18,3,97,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,16,0,0,vgr_artilleryfrigate,,21
18,3,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,17,0,0,Vgr_AssaultFrigate,,24
18,3,50,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,18,0,0,Vgr_Destroyer,,44
18,0,0,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,19,1,54,Vgr_BattleCruiser,,60
18,0,0,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,20,1,93,vgr_alkhalid,,26
18,0,0,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,21,1,83,Vgr_dreadnaught,,87
18,1,100,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,22,1,100,Vgr_commandfortress,,TimedOut
18,3,83,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,23,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_gun,,30
18,3,85,hgn_sweeperdestroyer,,24,0,0,Vgr_WeaponPlatform_missile,,34

Залил сам мод, уже адаптированный под 7.5:

Так. Закапываться тысячи логов мы не станем. Надо определить, какие юниты нужно протестить, т.е. за которыми мы чуем несоответствие роли или перекачанность. Пишите сюда свои соображения.

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Я так понимаю, никому здесь баланс не нужен?

Нужен всем.
Но объем работы многих отпугивает) Меня тоже впрочем.
Глянем..